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Bullet Train or Airplane: Which is the Best Value for Money?

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1xerxes:

wow thats really statistical analysis of you........ cool impressive and very clear on every point.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 00:31
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2noel:

If the train works on schedule,people will opt for the train because the planes are always late or 80% late.Long ques to get taxi at airport ,especially Beijing ,the worst taxi waiting and so is shanghai Hongqiao second,.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 08:17
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3Traveler:

@Noel

I have found the new Hongqiao to be excellent for taxis.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 10:05
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4Traveler:

@Noel is 100% correct about delays.

Journey time reliability is a big factor for me. As is comfort.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 10:10
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5JamesD:

Unfortunately, not every point has been considered in this article... and considering that, choosing between plane and train on the Shanghai / Beijing route, travel time, price and comfort are generally the same these days. What is NOT the same is the schedule! This article completely omits this point! If you have a lot of time on your hands then maybe schedule does not matter but most travelers today DO have some time constraints, and the bullet train schedule between these two cities sucks when you consider that there are NO trains after 6pm (or thereabouts). Since the introduction of the Shanghai / Beijing bullet trains and the subsequent removal of overnight Z trains, I am forced to fly to Beijing on business (from Shanghai); the schedule is IMPORTANT!!

ReplyAug 07, 2011 15:04
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6Real Xerxes:


A real Xerxes is well educated and understands quality analysis !

ReplyJan 14, 2012 16:05
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7Xia Li:

1 to JamesD. Normally when the travel time takes a minimum of 5 to 6 hours, you would like to do it in the night, preferably with sleeping included. When you have to spend 6 hours in the day, it doesn't go well with working crowd

ReplyJan 30, 2012 06:24
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8Earthworm:

I'd take the bullet train just for the "straight line of eight shiny white teeth"!

ReplyJun 22, 2011 10:16
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9S:

Can people stand in the aisle on the bullet trains? I know they can on the slow trains and that can get really packed, hot and sweaty...

ReplyJun 22, 2011 14:18
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10No Standing:

You must have a ticket, and each ticket is seat only.
But you can stand if you are more comfortable.

ReplyJun 23, 2011 08:58
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11Lajiao:

Yep. The price is no different, and the seats are all taken, ... but tickets are sold nonetheless.

ReplyJan 14, 2012 11:04
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12Sharkman:

How about safety? Which would you be more likely to survive,a plane crash or a bullet train crash? (I'm joking by the way)... ;-)

ReplyJun 22, 2011 16:00
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13Xia Li:

Nice point. A more serious question would be "How good are safety standards?"

You can be assured that the flights maintain some standards in terms of safety, but are we assured about train?

ReplyJan 30, 2012 06:29
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14grahame:

I am very interested to see how this does work out, as I am a rail afficionado, at heart, and do hope that the huge investment in high speed rail, in China, does prove to be economically viable.
Although the scenario presented here is a single example, it does however indicate that for other, shorter trips, the time scale narrows to the point where rail could even win on this factor.
I believe that several things will happen:
1) the airlines will reduce some fares on low patronage routes and the railways will increase fares on most routes as patronage increases.
2) some air routes will become uneconomic, so will be withdrawn
The net result will be that price will become less of a factor, and travellers will make their decision on mode of travel based on their own situation.
Thus both modes will survive into the forseeable future.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 19:06
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15ScottC:

Adding to the equation, though, is people driving their own cars. Travel generally becomes more dispersed as travel options increase, working against rail in the long run.

ReplyJan 31, 2012 16:44
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16kt321:

I traveled on the bullet train from JINAN, Shandong Prov. to Beijing Sth. I have done the trip by air also. I will choose the train every time. Seat allocation is the same, for me the train wins every other point

ReplyJun 22, 2011 19:10
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17Visitor:

I have to question the price you quote for the plane ticket, it seems you chose the most expensive flight. I just checked and tickets are available from 450 RMB plus taxes everyday.

ReplyJun 22, 2011 23:29
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18Robin:

They missed environmentally?
Train wins hands down there, even if it is an express. It's one of the reasons it costs a lot less, it simply uses less energy.

for good analysis on various forms of travel:
withouthotair (dot) com

ReplyJun 22, 2011 23:51
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19Peshim:

yeah but remember the article was taken from a chinese source... when have they ever cared about the environment?? Environmental protection is not a big deal for the Chinese

ReplyJun 23, 2011 09:52
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20JamesD:

Maybe not so true when you consider the environmental impact of the rail infrastructure across the country, and the energy consumed by the steel industry plus emissions from steel mills... and iron ore mining...

ReplyAug 07, 2011 14:51
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21Lynx Hew:

Bullet train / High Speed Rail wins in most cases because:
1) It operates in a more controlled environment that is more manageable in the longer term
2) The more manageable environment provides High Speed Rail technology with a better platform to improve services where necessary
3) High Speed Rail technology could create more jobs
4) Chinese citizens shall travel more often given the fact that they are much more familiar with rail travel as opposed to air travel
5) It is relatively cheaper in the immediate term
6) It should be less prone to unnecessary delays
7) etc , etc, etc...

The arguments that are pro-High Speed Rail outweighs air travel at the point of writing of this comment but that's just IMHO.

ReplyJun 23, 2011 04:29
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22Kevin Jones:

Another waste of an article.

1. Security lines for the trains better be just as stringent as airplanes.
2. Prices are guesstimates and do not reflect reality.
3. Seats that recline more on the train is actually more of a negative, unless you like to chew on the seat in front of you.

I would prefer the plane where most people will stay seated (and away from me).

ReplyJun 23, 2011 08:06
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23Traveller:

Seats can recline without interfering with the pax behind. There is sooo much legroom.

ReplyJun 23, 2011 09:00
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24paddy:

sad, misinformed, cretinous little muppet

ReplyJan 19, 2012 13:28
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25hjt84:

They seriously should've taken into account on #1 China's inability to get a plane away on time.

ReplyJun 23, 2011 09:52
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